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Cold Hard Truths
Disclaimer: this story is not for fans of the Peter/Gwen ship! If you are a diehard shipper of them and dislike anything that pokes holes in that ship, do not read! On the flip-side, this is not a story that bashes anyone. It does, however, cast a critical light on Gwen Stacy and her canon choices.
Summary: Peter has very different feelings about the kiss on Thanksgiving than in canon and as much as he cares about Gwen, there are some things to air out if either of them can move forward.
As Peter continued to skate a little more away from Liz and Flash, he heard the scrape of approaching skates and looked up to find Gwen coming near him. He started to wave but the look on her face stopped him.
"You've been avoiding me all week long!"
"What?"
Peter recalled when he had tried contacting Gwen earlier only to get told she wasn't available by her dad when Peter could clearly hear her voice in the background. Didn't she not want to talk to him? He was already getting more confused by the second as to what this was all about.
She crossed her arms and glared a little, "I won't be your second choice."
Peter really didn't feel like chasing her down to tell her his side of things AGAIN so he grabbed her shoulder, "Okay, look. I was going to tell you this over the phone but maybe this works out better doing this in person. . ."
She turned to look at him with curious, hopeful eyes.
He internally cringed. Saying this was going to SUCK. He took a deep breath and formed the words, "I don't see you as anything more than a friend."
Gwen's jaw dropped, "WHAT?!
People started to look their way, so she hunched her shoulders and dropped her voice, "I mean, you-you don't. . ."
Peter rubbed his eyes and sighed, "No, I don't. I'm sorry."
Gwen looked away, "Then. . .the kiss and the hints I gave. . ."
"Hints? I didn't realize you felt anything like that until you kissed me on Thanksgiving. And I was kinda too much in shock when you kissed me to say anything, " he stated, rather bluntly.
"Oh. . .I see."
She clearly didn't.
Peter felt awful seeing the hurt in her eyes, but it had to be said. The one good thing about the avoidance was that he had some time to review what he felt and ask May for advice. Surprisingly, his aunt was very supportive of his lack of feelings towards Gwen.
*flashback*
"Dear, you don't need to feel guilty about not returning someone's feelings. There's going to be no easy way to say something like this, especially to such an old friend."
Peter frowned, "But what if I say the wrong thing and end the friendship?"
His aunt shook her head, "Peter, unless you say something intentionally cruel and further trample the poor girl's feelings, it won't be you who ends the friendship. Whatever flaws in your upbringing or in you, I know for a fact that you are not naturally cruel nor did we raise to be so. Be straightforward but also be as kind as you can afford to be."
His shoulders deflated, "And if she ends the friendship? Won't it still be my fault?"
At this, May Parker took her nephew's face in her hands and spoke, "That would rest entirely on Gwen's shoulders. If she can't handle being 'just friends' then maybe she was never a friend in the first place. Friendship has a very special place in life and should never be undervalued or tossed away lightly. When Mary-Jane told you she wasn't ready for a serious relationship, did you stop hanging around her or enjoying her company even though you were a little hurt?"
"No. You're right, Aunt May. Thank you."
She patted his cheek, "Don't mention it, Peter. It's what mothers do."
*end of flashback*
"I-Gwen, I've always appreciated your friendship and I hope we can keep that going still! Just because I don't feel anything romantic between us doesn't mean I don't still care about you," Peter said while gently gripping her shoulders.
She remained silent both her head and eyes turned downwards.
He looked at her pleadingly, "Forget thinking about me in that way and move on, alright? You'll find that someone at some point and I'll support you 100%. Well, maybe not if they're a serial killer or abusive or something. Other than that I'm behind whoever you choose."
Peter thought he saw her lips twitch at that last part and gave her one last squeeze before letting go.
"Give yourself some time to adjust, alright? I'll see you. . .when I see you," he awkwardly stated before skating away.
Great note to end that on, Parker, he thought. Gah! He could have kicked himself for making THAT his conversation ender. However, before he could further berate himself on his choice of phrasing. . .
"Tiger, can we talk?"
Since only one person calls Peter that nickname, it wasn't exactly hard to guess the next person coming up to him.
"Oh, hey MJ. Sure, I guess. What do you need?"
Mary-Jane Watson looked much less carefree than usual and her next words showed this.
"What'd you say to Gwen? She looks like you told her Christmas was canceled."
He grimaced.
Wonderful, the rumors are practically starting already. Knowing how gossip mills love a bad guy, Peter will probably be made out to be the next Satan by the time the week is over.
"To make a long story short: she likes me beyond our friendship and I. . .had to explain that I don't see her like that."
MJ's eyes widened and she uncrossed her arms in shock.
"Peter," she said slowly, "she's had feelings for you since the third grade."
Oof. Now he feels worse.
"Oh, wonderful. That's not the best thing to hear when you're hoping for someone to move on quickly."
MJ frowned, "Do you really think Gwen's the one you should be writing off? She's been waiting for you for years and Liz only just started giving you the time of day. And even that still seems divided between you and Flash."
Peter shook his head. "First off, they literally just broke up this fall so of course they aren't over each other yet. Point two, Gwen could have told me much earlier than this year and we could resolved all this ages ago. Point three, neither of those previous points compare to the fact that I can't FORCE myself to like her like that."
"No one's saying you have to force yourself, Tiger. I'm just wondering if you've thought this through enough. You're not a neanderthal by a longshot, but you don't always know how to go about things like feelings. Maybe you should be giving yourself some time to really think before talking like that."
Her voice was set in a soft, coaxing tone but Peter was so done with this conversation and everything else today.
"I've had since Thanksgiving to think about it since she wouldn't return my calls. AND she had her dad stonewall me when the phone was picked up. I heard her talking in the background when he answered the phone, MJ. All she had to say was 'hey, I need some time to think before we talk' and I'd have been happy to wait. But I had no idea what was going on with her at all. If she's loved me since the third grade and we've been friends for even longer than that, why is it SO HARD for her to communicate with me what she wants?"
He knew it was kind of unfair, venting at MJ like this, but he couldn't say this to Gwen after he already took a sledgehammer to her feelings.
She had paused for a long moment and Peter was tempted to skate away like he had previous conversation, when she opened her mouth once more, "She didn't want to ruin the friendship she has with you."
He looked away for a moment before speaking, "I don't want that, either, but it's kinda hard to keep a friendship alive if it's this painful for us to talk to each other. As the social expert between the two of us, Mary-Jane, how much more difficult is it to keep a long-term romance alive if this kind of thing happens all the time?"
Dead silence was his answer as he pinned her stunned face with a searching look, ". . .Yeah. That's what I figured."
His voice held no hints of mockery, just tired expectance.
This time he didn't even bother with excusing himself; Peter just skated in the direction of the hot chocolate stand. Solitude and hot chocolate would really go a long way to improving his mood.
It would be not long after this thought that a lightning bolt hit the ice rink.
#tssm#tssm peter parker#the spectacular spider man#tssm gwen stacy#tssm mary-jane watson#tssm au#tssm gwen stacy critical#tssm mary-jane watson critical#which is rough because I love mj but her shipper tendencies would realistically cause problems#the rest of the time she's great tho#my main beef is with gwen
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Everyone's on about Miguel beefing with a 15 yo, which sure it's funny, but y'all are letting the Spot, "I now declare this child that MY INVENTION inflicted this anomalous occurrence on, my lifelong nemesis", the ULTIMATE beef haver, to go unchecked.
#spireverse spoilers#across the spiderverse spoilers#you know at least miguel has the excuse that 15yo or not Miles's actions might cause TWO whole dimensions to collapse#assuming both pavitr's and miles' own dimension have a similar population to ours#thats SIXTEEN BILLION LIVES at stake babes#yah like no i'd also be going kooky crazy in his shoes#ofc his handling of Miles' situation wasn't good but that's not. precisely his job? Breaking the news shouldve fallen on Peter and Gwen#yanno. his actual friends? but they skirted around the subject too much so woops it falls on Miguel now#the most emotionally unsuited for this task guy possible. woopsies.#get ready for the most projection filled fight of your life kid cause it sure is cheaper quicker and easier than therapy!#I jest and the projection part is true but tbh i think too many people in the tags are interpreting Miguel being antagonistic to the rest-#as him having personal beef with children instead of him focusing (too much) on the bigger picture. like..isnt that his entire personality?#the 'fate of the multiverse' guy? cmon now.#the main issue is that miles Does Have To TRY- that's part of the canon event in the first place#trying and failing. if his plan of keeping him trapped until jeff died had worked then his dimension would most likely also collapse#if anything the way things are set up rn is sooo interesting because miles IS precisely on the way to fulfill a canon event#the question is - are they going to play into that- or is there going to be a twist. Gwen's realization that Her dad could in fact Quit -#comes to mind#i for one would find it really funny if the plot of the next movie is trying to convince jeff to quit his job but i doubt it jxnsn#my guess is that since this is basically the variation of the trolley problem where the singular person on the tracks is one you care about#(but said person is simultaneously also on the 5 person rail because if they don't die everyone does)#and miles has decided to just go and stop the fucking trolley itself fnsjsj#the plot's gonna go a bit more all out . /Beyond/ the previous scope- if you will#the only sticking point i have with this movie in general though is pavitr sticking with the group like.#“obviously he would've stuck with miles- he wouldn't want the guy to die!”so you think he prefers the version of events where everyone does#his friends? his aunt - whatever family he has- his girlfriend? EVERYONE?#yeah like nah until he can solidly know that shits gonna be fine in his home world i don't think it makes sense for him to fuck around more#yanno?#not that I dont want to see more of him- on the contrary I fuckin love his design to bits#just saying if miguel drops the bomb that his universe collapsed and my guy switches sides i would not be surprised
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Why i didn’t make merlin as king / court sorcerer / court advisor
So i had a conversation w my moot (if you’re reading this hello) and they didnt like that i made merlin as consort (they changed their mind thoe!) in the final timeline so im gonna explain why here:
no guys its not misogyny or making merlin an uwu helpless submissive femboy, i just genuinely think merlin cant lead 😭
like take example his servant position: he’s SO TERRIBLE AT HIS JOB he should get fired actually when compared to George. He went so far off his job desc, even already beefing with arthur in episode 1.
and merlin is an infp (im also infp EEEE). His decisions are based on feelings rather than logic. This is how we all got that devastating ending + bad writing.
It’s also shown in canon how merlin is meant to work in the background, leading, diplomacy, anything related with the public, that’s all arthur’s work. They meant to complete eachother
Now imagine this boy leading a kingdom i dont think it will last 💀 he probably either be too nice to other kingdoms / entities that they stab him in the back or let it burn for arthur lol
But! I think merlin should be known with a title something like “the king’s shadow” (Kinda like how sasuke is shadow hokage) cuz merlin eliminates every threat of camelot and appears when least expected. (He also have very good intel because he talks to nature!)
Why not court sorcerer? I think things like magic diplomacy should be handled by morgana because she is royalty at birth and she is more qualified to deal w people than merlin does 💀
and why not court advisor? i think that gwen is more suited to be advisor and head house because her judgement is better than merlin and arthur. with the background that she used to be a peasant who live quite a while in camelot, she knows the people better than anyone.
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To find my other ramblings about this AU, filter with the hashtag #must we really rely on fate?
#bbc merlin#merlin#merlin bbc#merthur#merlin emrys#arthur pendragon#arthur bbc#merlin prompt#morgana#morgana pendragon#merlin fix it#must we really rely on fate?
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Let's Talk Peter B
@iwasbored777 (Since you ask to be tagged)
Okay! I was on the fence about writing this post, but after doing this response and some encouragement, I decided that fuck it, let’s do this.
While I had seen multiple things about Gwen being a bad friend, a bad person, and other things I don’t want to say because I will start ranting- Peter B for the most part, has come out scotch free.
Don’t get me wrong, I had seen some people address his issues, but it has been a few posts in a sea of him with Mayday and people shipping with Miguel. Which hey, is okay with me, but when you see you a character you love be given the short end of the stick despite the circumstances yet another character that has much less to lose has their mistakes largely been ignored and basically be woobify.
Is not just Gwen, I had also seen people take beef with Jess as a mentor yet somehow leave Peter out of that conversation. Don’t get me wrong Jess is far from perfect (which is something I discussed before,) but again, Peter is far from perfect too.
Does this has to do with Peter being a beloved main character in the first movie? Yes. Does it also has to do with misogynoir and misogyny? Oh I don’t doubt it.
I don’t hate Peter B, far from it, I think he is a great adaptation of our spidey, and while I am not the biggest spiderman fan out there, I did grew up with Peter Parker in movies and cartoons so I do have love for this characters as well as his incarnation in Sony movies.
I will do my best to remain as unbiased and neutral as possible, but not gonna lie this entire thing is annoying me enough that I will say when I am aware of my own biases, as I always try to do.
But if you think liking a character stops me from calling them on their bullshit you are wrong.
I know this post is more about how Peter is with Miles and his role as a mentor, but I decided to address some other things I had seen people talk about because there is a reason I choose "Let's talk Peter B Parker" as a title.
Believe it or not, I am fine with this. Seriously.
Peter wasn’t here when Miles arrived, and considering they did a small tour and got an empanada on the way, I think wouldn’t be odd to say he wasn’t around when Miles arrived. My theory is that he was taking care of his own stuff, and once he knew that Miles was around, went to get Mayday to present her to Miles.
I think that’s pretty normal all things consider, he loves Miles and wouldn’t had fixed things with MJ and had his daughter without her, of course he would want the two of to met.
The enthusiasm is all things consider pretty sweet, and while I don’t approve of some things he does (like giving her a web shooter while being just a few months old?) Is one of those things that are part of superhero writing that has the children technically doing things that they shouldn’t be doing for their age, so I just let it slide because if I get hung up every time I see something like this, it would not end.
I’m the only one who is actually mad about this comment?
Yes, is a joke, I get that, and Peter is trying to take as much as steam off Miles by trying to frame him on the light that he messes up, but is just who he is.
It doesn’t make me any less annoyed.
For starters, I feel like I am rereading Percy Jackson again (No I will not explain that reference.) Because despite everyone more or less knowing what’s going on (Hobie said before he didn’t know what Miguel was hiding so how much he knows is unsure,) no one has attempted to explain the situation to Miles.
This is a trope I had seen enough (including WAY too many times in the books I mentioned,) and I really resent when characters act as if the protagonist or someone else is stupid just because they are unaware of something. ESPECIALLY if the characters saying so are aware they don’t know.
They are also letting him believe is a good thing he is in HQ, but that is actually not Peter’s fault. I am mad with Gwen on this one, but also Jessica, and Hobie well, he should have known enough to be able to tell him seeing Miguel is not good news. At least Hobie tries to warn him as subtly as possible.
Sure, Peter just got here, but the fact that he is already accusing Miles of just messing up with the universe carelessly is not something that doesn’t sit well with me. Either he knows that Miles doesn’t know and is making an insulting comment, or thinks Miles is aware of the situation and just acted recklessly. The second one is the best scenario, but I feel Peter is presuming way too much for someone that just came around and should have known better than believe Miles knew all of these details while Miguel basically has a giant banner of “Not Earth-1610 Anomalies allowed.”
Also, sidetrack but what exactly does Miles do that isn’t just your typical spidey behaviour? Yes he doesn’t always have full-formed plans before acting but you can say that about EVERYONE in the room at that moment.
“He wasn’t thinking, is not like he works!” My ass.
Want my two cents about this moment? Peter has zero business telling this to Miles.
When Miles asks Gwen about her dad, she is crestfallen, she doesn’t like to believe this more than he does; but unlike anyone else in this room, Gwen cannot return to her home dimension. The best case scenario is if she isn’t there, her dad may not die; but that’s the best case scenario, and that involves again, not stepping again in her home dimension ever again. Her best bet is never to see her home, or anyone she knows including her dad, because not only she may end up in prison, her presence may lead to the death of her dad.
And who knows, it may happen regardless; he may be dead already because he is a police officer and she couldn’t be there to give a hand or save him (As she said she did in Into the Spider-verse, by the way.)
Yet at least, she is coming to this with the idea that her life is going to have to SUCK for a few years, things happening or not happening depending on where she is but none of this is pretty or fair.
Peter? As far as we know, he is done.
Considering the age range of the Spidey-characters, chances are Peter already lived the canon events he needed to live, at best they don’t know what’s next, which means he can operate as he feels is the best course of action.
Miles asked him if he would have let his uncle die, but Peter lost his uncle over twenty years ago, he had enough time to grieve, to accept the outcome, and find happiness after it. And to top it all off, HE DIDN’T HAVE THAT MORAL DILEMMA PLACED IN FRONT OF HIM BEFORE IT HAPPENED.
I find Peter’s words hollow because unlike Miles, he was never asked to not intervene in a canon event, he hasn’t needed to deal with someone from his universe dying while he let it play out.
I am not saying he didn't suffer, he did, and a lot; yet he was unaware that this would happen, is way different having someone tell you “Oh those tragedies you lived? It’s the destiny that keeps everything together, it’s rough but it is what it is,” than someone telling you “Oh you are going to live a bunch of different personal tragedies, and you need to suffer with the burden of this knowledge because is this or everyone in every universe dies.”
(How much do you guys bet someone will use this as an example of the trolley problem in a philosophy class.)
Since we are going in kind of a chronological order, let’s go to something a tad lighter both because it deserves mention, and so I can cool down before I start ranting in Spanish (which is not going to be saying pretty things about B precisely.)
Yes, Peter recognizes this is bad parenting, which is good because it certainly isn’t good; I also have trouble believing he didn’t know AT LEAST ONE spider that could stay behind and watch Mayday while he went to the chase.
However, I do think the chase was never going to be dangerous, nor Peter thought it would be. He has been Spider-man for a quarter of a century, he has been swinging around for so long is second nature to him, I bet he has taken Mayday on “strolls” which is him swinging around.
There is also another screenshot that really encapsulates that Peter didn’t realize how dire the situation is, but that’s for later.
There is also the possibility that he asked Miguel to do this as a way to distract him, but considering this is the only time he does this and is going around him being obsessed with Mayday (Which I think is a bit too much, but I blame more the writers than Peter for that.) I am inclined to believe this is not the case.
(Sigh) I promise to try to be neutral, so I need to bring this up.
What they were talking about earlier can be lumped to a bit later on, and I decided to bring this instead of talking about it when Miles and Peter saw each other (which is I didn’t bring because what I could say would be the same as this.) Because this is something really beautiful that I didn’t want to leave out.
I think that’s what angers me the most about this, because in a vacuum? I love this.
I am a sucker for found family tropes, I love the idea that Miles would grow to see people like Peter B, Noir, and so forth as a family. I love how Peter says how much Miles means to him and meeting him changed his life for the better.
Peter B loves Miles, he said that in the last movie; I can’t just erase that.
However, is exactly because of this scene, that what happens next makes me so sad.
Oh, Miles.
I didn’t mention it in the previous image nor did I took detailed screenshots for the sake of my sanity and to not turn this way too long. (Though I may do it in another moment- Ok I need to focus.)
Miles was obviously affected by what Peter said to him, it obviously means a lot because Miles also loves Peter; of all the spiders in the gang he was the one who he spent the most time initially; he wouldn’t be the Spider-man he is today without him.
And it breaks my heart how Miles says this.
Look at the angle, at his posture; Miles can’t even turn to say this to Peter’s face because it hurts so much. He looks so small in that shot, trying to emphasize how he is just a teen, how he really loves them so much, and it breaks his heart to know that they could visit him, and they didn’t.
Let’s remember what he was doing at the beginning of the movie; he was trying to study physics. He is great at it, and he was since the first movie, however, this is clearly not his passion; he loves his art and even if he didn’t know what he wanted to do yet in the first movie, you can see how much he loves what he does.
And he was willing to leave all of that aside, just to see Gwen, Peter and the others again; because as far as he knew there wasn’t any other way. Remember, he was aiming at Princeton; he would need to bleed and work hard to get there, and even after, being in this field it was not going to be a walk in the park; getting to make the dimensional travel work (At least without seeing Miguel’s technology like Hobie seemed to do;) was also going to be hard.
Miles wanted to do all of that for them, and them? They didn’t.
Now; I don’t blame Gwen in this scenario.
I had said this much in this post before, and a bunch of others too. Gwen was stuck with the Spider Society; and yet she risked losing everything, from homelessness to prison, to spend an afternoon with Miles the second she had an excuse.
What is Peter’s excuse?
He couldn't, he couldn't.
That's what he had to say for himself.
Here is the thing: I am not sure I buy it.
Gwen makes sense to me, Miguel didn't want Gwen to be involved since the beginning and obviously doesn't trust her when is about Miles; Gwen wasn't exactly wrong to fear she would get kicked out if she acted out of line.
Peter? I have my doubts.
We don't know Miguel's and Peter B's relationship (I know some shippers have some ideas, not my cup of tea but I have no problem if people like it.) However, we know that Peter B was there when Miguel's dimension collapsed, later in the movie we saw what Miguel did to Gwen for what happened (believe me, we will get there.)
Even if that was the case; Peter’s situation is much less dire than Gwen’s. Even if Peter could be kicked out of the organization for disobeying Miguel; he would still have his wife, his house, his daughter. He would had been in the same spot he was at the end of the first movie, if not better because now he would had a chance to know both him and Miles would be okay.
I am getting ahead of the post here, but I honestly don’t know how much of Canon BS Peter believes; he clearly doesn’t think Miles is bad for being an anomaly, nor his daughter (technically because Peter wasn’t supposed to meet Miles, he wouldn’t have his daughter. Is certainly a NO in the comics.) Miguel is convinced that Miles’ presence is enough to create more holes in the multiverse; Gwen obviously doesn’t share that view. Peter? I don’t know if he thinks there is actually something to lose for visiting him.
One way or another, he doesn’t really give me a reason here; who knows, maybe when Beyond comes there would be enough information for me to admit Peter did the right thing. For now? No.
Here, we have Miles telling Peter he wanted to meet them so badly, and even if Peter doesn't have a clue of how literal Miles is; you can hear it in his voice, in his posture, how he still cannot look at Peter because to that point it hurts.
And what's Peter's response to this?
(Deep breath,) Boy at moments like this I really wish I didn't think so hard about media.
It hurts me, and it angers me, because it is a pretty sweet moment, but when you think hard about it, it just becomes messy.
I could make an entire discussion about how Peter literally ignored Miles’ feelings about not being there, about how he and others (Gwen not really, the others eehhh hard to say;) didn’t try too reach him, which obviously makes him feel like they don’t care about him as he does. And Peter decide to ignored it.
But! I will try to give him the benefit that this is a tense situation, there is hundreds of spiders looking for them, and there only have so much time. I am going to believe, Peter couldn’t address that at the moment because they had other issues.
Yet even if we omit that point, do you guys realize this is literally no different that his entire spiel about Uncle Ben, right?
Because that’s what he is trying to say, “Spider-man has to suffer, but hey sometimes good things can happen anyways.” This entire conversation is about trying to make Miles follow him, do whatever Miguel is trying to do to avoid having Miles go to his dimension (or at least stop him from saving his dad,) and basically let her dad die.
Look, there is nuance to this situation; Peter isn’t saying this to manipulate Miles, he believes this. He truly believes bad things had to happen to keep the universe from falling apart; I am convinced Miguel’s second universe didn’t fall for his Canon theory, yet Peter B was there, I can’t blame the guy for drinking the kool-aid a bit more than the others.
This doesn’t change the fact that this scene has Peter ignoring Miles’ pain, and try to tell him he needs to suffer some more because “is just how the universe works!”
(Sidenote but anyone can’t help to see this and think of a random Christian telling someone after they lived a personal tragedy “Is just G-d’s plan”? Because I saw that a lot.)
Now, I guess the next question someone may be wondering is, do I believe Peter was being honest with Miles here?
...I don’t know, I really, don’t know.
I had seen this scene multiple times, and I lost count how many times when I was in the theatre, seeing this scene, and thinking “he knew” just for the next moment thinking “he didn’t know.”
If you want my two cents, the part that keeps tripping me over is how he looks at his watch, then Miles, then the watch, it makes me wonder if he is screaming that he doesn’t have his location to Miguel, or to Miles.
I don’t want to believe Peter purposefully drive Miles away so he could get trapped, when he says to Miles “I didn’t know, I promise;” I want to believe him.
The thing is, the outcome he hoped wasn’t that much different, now was it?
He wanted it to be Miles decision, yet again, he was trying to get Miles to not just abandon his morals (as well as the ones every Spider-person should have,) but also try to tell him he needs to suffer for the good of the world.
(I am having SO many flashbacks to things I read about cults, I need to continue working on that post about the Spider Society ffs.)
This is a small detail, but I gotta say; Peter do you really have nothing on your defense?
Look, feel free to believe I am playing favourites, but unlike many people who had a problem with Gwen, I don't blame her for hiding this.
No, I don't think what she did was right. Let’s not get things twisted. I definitely think Gwen shouldn’t had hide this stuff, yet she in general NEVER, had a good idea of how much to say and how much to keep with anyone she talks to; from her dad to Jess to Miles. Once again this is an aspect I can’t get mad at her because she is sixteen and traumatized with a minimal support network and irresponsible guardians.
Now Peter, what’s YOUR excuse?
Not just for not telling something to Miles earlier, I could believe he would have done it if the situation has calmed down. No, Miles asked them about it, and even a bit later says “That’s why you guys never came to see me;” (Which I think is kind of BS but let’s not get ahead of myself on this one.) The thing is that when he has the teen he mentored being manhandled by his ‘friend,’ and said thing asks them to answer him; Peter just ducks.
Like he cannot even see Miles and admit he shouldn’t have done that.
Gwen’s excuse isn’t much better but at least she is answering and you can see in her face how much she knows she fucked up.
I am going to be honest, this little detail wouldn’t bother me as much if what has happened before and what’s yet to happened didn’t exist, yet it does.
There is a difference in “Well you did a little mistake but I can let slide” vs “There are so many things wrong here that I will call you out even for the tiny ones.” Granted Peter isn’t that bad, but is a nuance I think a lot of people don’t think of.
Could Peter haven't said anything because the scene is trying to focus on Miles and Gwen for this part? Yes; it doesn't stop me from getting annoying.
Okay, Miles says this, do I believe it? Ehh not sure.
Gwen definitely not the case, if she truly thought him being an anomaly was a problem, she wouldn't have gone to see him directly.
Peter? Again, I have no idea how much of the kool-aid he has been drinking, the fact that he speaks highly of him and his daughter as good things that has happened makes me inclined to believe he doesn't.
We don't have an answer either way, right?
Not that Peter does much to help him feel better here. Yes yes trying to keep focus on certain characters I know.
(Looks at the camera like is the office.) And now THIS is the time where I wish I wasn’t aware of how writing works.
Okay, I know what the purpose of Peter is, aside of being here as a mentor, he is here kind of as a comic relief. He doesn’t have the same narrative weight as he had in the last movie, and he is here to be cute with his baby for the most part. That’s his purpose at this moment.
It-doesn’t-change-anything.
He has this recurring joke on the third act about if he is or not a good mentor, and it kind of has to do with the last movie, specially this joke, since at the end he was also talking how he taught him something he definitely didn’t do. Last movie I found it cute, here? Not so much.
I am trying not to be hard here and why I would not address the “son of a mother” moment (which I honestly really hate,) because this is not even Peter B’s fault at this point; the writers were trying very hard to have a way to make the situation a tad lighter while also having an important character be in character. I can’t say is truly out of character, but I’m not appreciating it.
Especially having him insist on being a good mentor after letting down his protege MULTIPLE TIMES.
Don't you guys love when you see a grown-ass adult go apeshit on a teen, and his friends aren't doing anything to stop him?
Sorry, yeah I understand that for narrative purposes, they have to be stuck to the ground, but after someone pointed this out a few weeks ago, I can't stop thinking of this shot so I needed to bring it out.
(BIG sidenote but, Margo is the biggest MVP here; girl met Miles once and probably has little to no context, yet she is helping him out. Queen behavior.)
Now let's talk about some bullshit.
I know this is technically not about Peter, considering this is Miguel talking to Gwen, yet I find LAUGHABLE this response.
I will give this to the spider//dad shippers, I would also be inclined to believe Miguel has a thing for Peter B if between the guy who had the "fugitive" in close quarters for a few minutes yet did not attempt to trap him, vs the teen girl who tries to help out her mentor to catch the dude (even if she didn't try too hard,) you decide the teen girl is the problem.
Is funny because really all this scene needs is Miguel saying "If it wasn't for you, he wouldn't have come here, he wouldn't had know and the Spot wouldn't have escaped," at least that much couldn't have been said for Peter B.
I think the writers were trying to make Miguel just look less and less reasonable the more we saw on screen; which is why he would go with route.
It doesn't change the fact that Mighel accusing Gwen of not capturing him is laughable.
YOU 👏 ARE 👏 A 👏 TERRIBLE 👏 MENTOR.
(This moment could be addressed individually, but they are basically the same thing and this post is DEFINITELY too long; seriously I had written fics shorter than this wtf.)
Here is my problem with this: He just decides that oh well, what can he do.
SERIOUSLY?!
Forget the "Oh but he doesn't do this the story-" for a moment; are you seriously telling me that not only this guy knows Miles is in a PRETTY fucked up situation, but also that Gwen is in her home universe where she will be homeless (because there is no way in hell Peter B doesn't know what happened to her,) and you decide to just, go brooding in your dimension?
You know is absolutely amazing how I had heard people grill Miguel and Jess for their behavior with Gwen (which I agree with for the most part,) yet I haven't seen anyone say "Isn't it a bit fucked up that Peter B should have known what would happen to Gwen if she went home and didn't decide to help her?"
Miguel is on Earth 1610 and hellbent on finding Miles, you cannot tell me if Peter B left his daughter with his wife, and then went to fetch Gwen, Miguel would have noticed. At the very least Peter could had try to check on her.
Peter B has known Gwen for longer than Jess and Miguel, even if he couldn't be a proper guardian for her because he was busy with his life, he could have been more present. He definitely could have attempted to defend her better when Miguel was screaming at her, or to look after her when she was kicked to her universe.
Jess is determined to act as if Gwen is more of an employee than a teen, but Peter B should be known better.
But is not his idea to help Miles, is Gwen's; because right now he is too focused on his life and his duty as spiderman to think of the younger generations that are hurting. Just like Miguel and Jess.
Yet not the narrative, nor the fandom, truly recognizes that.
Let’s wrap this up, you guys have no idea the amount of hours I had spend on this and I would be surprised if someone got this far.
As a small detail, Peter is seen with Mayday, and this time I DO have a problem with it.
I honestly hope Peter isn’t with Mayday in Beyond, I will pretend Peter doesn’t have Mayday during the events on Beyond in my fics for as long as I can; because this is the moment where I feel the joke is being pushed too far.
They don’t know what would happen next, they don’t know in what type of situation they are in, they know whatever universe ended was one with no spiderman so it has to be dangerous; yet he brings the baby because that’s his recurring theme for this movie.
And truly, that’s really the problem with his character here: He was given a small role to do with very limited things to do.
I am not saying this is bad writing; I may not like Peter’s decisions in this movie, and I am really hoping beyond gives a big ass cup of “Adults need to start protecting the younger generations instead of insist they need to toughen up” to all of them. Because more than his role, I am annoyed that neither the movie nor the fandom is addressing the failings of Peter B.
He is not a bad character, I don’t even think he is a bad character in this movie. I like him, and even if writing all of this down made realize I am more bitter about it than I would had liked; I just don’t think is fair.
I want Peter to be better, as a mentor, as a father; and I am really hoping the next movie shows him grow that way too. I do believe the writers can pull it off.
Now, the fandom addressing that?...That I have MUCH less confidence. But not gonna lie this post was made mostly to get this out of my chest rather than expect a reaction out of it.
If anyone made this far, first of, wow; I know some people were interesting in reading this, but even I think I went for a while I put a lot of things that are small details but you guys now me, it wouldn’t be me if I didn’t do that.
Be thankful I don’t talk about micro-expressions in frames or this would truly would had ended up as a novelette.
Second, thank you for reading! Give a like and your opinion if you want; because I am pretty sure this post is doing to have fewer notes.
#peter b parker#atsv files#atsv#across the spiderverse#spiderman#gwen stacy#miles morales#miguel o'hara#analysis
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The Alley Cats: A fun little Team CIRRRRH AU
(I could have tried to go for consistency with either all vectors or no vectors, but I feel like the inconsistency is more appropriate for this AU.)
So, time to share the AU I alluded to in my last post with Team CIRRRRH being gremlins to José!
It's a high school AU where each member of Team CIRRRRH have been made into social outcasts in their own unique and special ways. Plus Eva. I just couldn't bring myself to separate Team E-scope.
No one else would have them, so they started hanging out in an alley one of them found behind the school to avoid the bullying and the glares.
From the outside it looks like utter garbage. But if you go through the garbage and past the corner, you get to their little cove with a beat up couch, a stolen vending machine, a punching bag, and other little personalized touches they've added to make their place more cozy.
Alejandro's the newest addition and their self-appointed leader. He does not like his new status on the bottom of the totem pole in school. So, he leads the others towards schemes that will get them (him) back into the good graces of everyone else. Or to get revenge on those who made them into outcasts. It really depends on how well Alejandro can manage to herd these cats on a particular day.
There's only one main rule in the alley (aside from the ones Alejandro tries to impose). If someone finds their way into this alley all on their own, they're automatically an Alley Cat.
After all, if you're that desperate to get away from everybody, you probably need a group of friends more than anything else right now.
(More details about the AU under the read more, I just wanted to separate it from the basic premise.)
I'm still coming up with ideas for this AU! It's definitely a more casual one filled with wacky shenanigans. I'm retconning two of my previous posts into this au as party of the wacky shenanigans. Because they, along with the idea itself, were all inspired by a very specific animatic that you'll see in the second post. I just want to add links to them both here so they're consolidated in the same place:
Alley Cats vs. José Pt 1
Alley Cats vs. José Pt 2
Most of what I have now is trying to nail down exactly how each of these little goobers became an Alley Cat. Some of them I have a more clear idea that'll get their own posts soon enough, others are just a thought. So far, I have this:
Alejandro - Used to be a popular kid that DID a good amount of the bullying towards the Alley Cats. Thought he was leaving the country and decided to let loose. Turns out his father changed his mind. Oops. Actions, meet consequences.
Noah - Has personal beef with Justin he refuses to explain. Tried to make Justin into an outcast. It backfired horribly.
Izzy - Pulled one too many wacky hijinks that resulted in other people getting injured. The final straw was when she exploded something that ruined a good thing for everyone.
Eva - She issued her anger towards one of the sweetest people in the school to the point where she hospitalized them. She might have avoided juvie, but it sure doesn't feel like it.
Owen - Outcasted by association. He started hanging out with at least one member of the Alley Cats (still trying to figure out if it's just Noah or a combination of Noah, Izzy, and Eva) because he really didn't think anyone deserved to be outcasted. Refused to turn his back on them to save his own reputation.
Tyler - Fumbled the winning point during the big game (still trying to figure out which sport he plays when I don't do sports). Made worse by the fact that this would have finally put the school on the map towards being taken seriously. Combined with bitterness towards favoritism that allows him to stay on the team despite him being a bad player, he got socially kicked out of the team even though he's still physically on it.
And a later addition:
Duncan - Pretty much did the whole cheating thing with Gwen as in canon. Doesn't get why he's here. Essentially becomes New Alejandro once Alejandro starts getting that sweet sweet character development.
If you have any questions about this AU, please feel free to ask away! It helps me come up with things.
#alley cats au#total drama#td#total drama au#td au#team chris is really really really really hot#team cirrrrh#td noah#td alejandro#td eva#td izzy#td owen#td tyler#td duncan#total drama izzy#total drama noah#total drama alejandro#total drama eva#total drama tyler#total drama duncan#total drama owen
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Calling my bf, "My Husband" Prank
(There's a prank trend where significant others are are calling their partners "My Husband" instead of their bfs. Some are very cute and some are heartbreaking if ya'll ever look it up on TikTok. Anyway for punk flower it's always cute!)
Miles set up his smartphone on a phone stance, while him and Hobie got some lunch together. The prank idea came from Miles watching some TikTok videos of one partner of a couple would say their boyfriend is their husband and wait to see their reaction. He send those videos to his friends, Gwen thought he should try it with Hobie. Pavtri said it would be cute to see his reaction, since the two been together for a long time.
The punker and artists had been dating for nine years going on ten! Miles is already twenty four, while his Hobie is twenty five. Their relationship been so long and close that Miles figure Hobie wouldn't be the kind of partner to have a negative reaction.
"Ready?" Miles happily asked as the two sit outside of HQ on a modern design courtyard to enjoy the bright sunny day on Earth 928.
Hobie nodded having to take out their take out containers and their drinks. "Yup, do I look good?" He checks himself at the camera seeing himself looking handsome. He noticed the live symbol on the Spider So-City app, "Are we live?"
"Yup! Just for fun!" Miles giggles, "You be surprised how many views we get from Punkflower fans."
"Because of Pav?" He asked already noticing a lot of hearts, likes and Pavtri commenting a big happy face emoji.
"Yup!" Miles waves at the camera, "Hey guys! Today, we got some Jamaican food from my world, it's a new mom and pop shop. So we wanted to try it." He holds his drink, "Today I order Rice and Peas with jerk chicken and fried plátano, which is ripe plantains. I got Sorrel which is Jamiaca basically sweet hibiscus tea." He took a sip trying his drink, "Mm, it's good." He shows off his plate seeing how delicious his food look.
Then, Hobie took a bite of his Jamaican patty being in a white paper bag separate from his main order tray, "This Jamaican Patty is scrummy. MMM! Been craving this for a while." He mutters having another bite of his beef Jamaican patty tasting the savory fried flavors.
"Ohh, is that good?" Miles asked as he tries to open his plastic packet where his utensils are in. His boyfriend hold out the patty out for his to try.
"Try, luv." He said letting Miles taking a bite it.
The Spider-man nodded at the flavor, "That's good! Oh wow, so much flavor. That aunty don't play."
"Hahaha, she doesn't. I knew once she started rushing us to order." Hobie chuckles.
Miles chews, "Mmm, so good. I wonder if she makes it spicy or she adds bread." He turns to the camera, "For someone people, some Jamaicans or people like to eat bread with their Jamaican patties." His eyes on some Spider-heroes being confused or asking why or why carbs on carbs.
"What are they saying?" Hobie asked.
"One said Why?" Miles giggles at the question, then saw a lot of Spider-Heroes posting Jamaican flags.
Hobie shrugs, "Because it's bloody good. I do it most of the time. It's also to make you full, too."
"Someone said carbs on carbs is insane!" His boyfriend read the comment, "Ya'll are forgetting some Latinos or Mexicans like eating bolio con tamal de dulce con café! I've seen that's a thing."
His boyfriend arched his eyebrows, "What's that?"
"It's a Mexicans corn dough that is sweeten by fruit like strawberries or pineapple and they wrap it in corn husk. I think steamed. It's a big thing during the winter times. Me and Ganke have a friend, she's Mexican and her mom made like so much and gave us some." Miles sips his drink, he look at the comments.
Miguel put a Mexican flag and wrote: Que rico! Así se come! Bolio con tama dulce y cafécito
Gabriella commented next: I love it with Champurrado! You should try Tamal de Pińa!
Miles giggles, "Gabi said we should try the pineapple one. I think you'll like it. It's pretty good if you got it from someone that knows how to make tamales."
"I'm def, luv. I rarely hate anything, I just like to stick what I like sometimes." Hobie commented, he sips his drink, "I got myself a Sorrel!"
"Oh, I forgot to talk about your order!" Miles fake gasp, "So my husband order rice and peas with a side of Oxtails..." Hobie stop eating his Jamaican patty his head slowly turns to his boyfriend then his lips twisted to a big grin. "And he order fried plantains-" Hobie interrupted his boyfriend, "What?"
"What?" Miles asked pretending to be confused.
Hobie chuckles having a big smile on his face, "What you said?"
"I said I forgot to mention your order." He playfully said having a small shy smile.
His punker shook his head being playful, "Nooo, Sunflower. After that. What did you say?" His eyes gleaming, his whole body turning pinker than before.
"My husband." Miles giggles while answering his boyfriend question. That made the punker to get up being out of camera's view and jumps up and down.
"Yes! Yes! YES!" He shouted up with joy.
Miles smiles widely at the positive outlook of his boyfriend, what he did expect is his boyfriend came running to hug him and sweep him off his feet. "Say it, again?" Hobie happily carries his boyfriend in a koala hugging position, he kisses him on the cheek.
"My husband." Miles' face all flustered but he said it much louder and prouder tone.
Hobie gave his a nose nuzzle, "That's more like it." They happily kiss forgetting their lunch for the moment.
The live stream went on with many Spider-heroes sending hearts and excitement emojis!
Gwen: 😅I think Hobie thinks Miles propose him
Margo: DITTO! 😂
Pavtri: 🥳 I'll be the best man!
Gabi: I wanna be the flower girl! 🤗
#punkflower#miles morales#hobie brown#spiderman#across the spider verse#spider verse#flowerpunk#fanfic#across the spiderverse
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@fairyhagmother Nell!! I have finished Bliss and Blunder. (did you get my ask the other day?) I meant to post some thoughts as I read it but I got engrossed in it on sunday and read most of it that day, so I thought I might as well wait till I finished it.
[this isn't a review or anything, just random thoughts. a stream of consciousness if you will. it's nearly 2.30am and I'm so -> LOL I'm re-reading this at 7.30am the next day and I literally fell asleep while typing this? like mid-sentence. ‘sleepy’ is what I meant to write obviously. I was adding this bit after writing the whole post so you can imagine how coherent it is]
some general thoughts (I'll keep anything above the cut spoiler-free):
it was a fun read! I was a bit wary of the constantly switching POV at first because inevitably there’s going to be some character I just don’t care much about and chapters from their POV will be a drag. but thankfully I cared about all characters here—some more than others, of course, but there was never a point where I was bored of reading about someone. the jumping between past and present worked well in keeping the tension up.
I wouldn’t have picked this book if it hadn’t been sold as an arthurian retelling (reworking?)—would I have enjoyed it as much if it hadn’t been one? would I have cared about arthur and gwen as much, had they been andrew and gabrielle? probably not, half the fun was picking up the nods to arthurian canon. at the same time, if these are meant to be arthurian characters, I’m not fully convinced by some elements of the transposition.
the main one being—tech bro arthur. does it work? I’m not sure. yes, the wealth and power and admiration of his people are all there, and even arthur’s noble intentions, at least at first. the problem is that—with the exception of galahad, and possibly lancelot—the other knights become just… some guys. arthur’s nepo besties.
*spoilers from here*
they’ve not done anything of note, have no special talent or skill, they're not even particularly loyal to arthur. he's bought their friendship, pretty much. there’s a chapter where morgan reflects on the meaning of chivalry, so the author must have considered it and I suppose it’s intentional, but still, are they even the same characters at this point?
not that it mattered that much—they were minor characters after all. I was just thinking about it. because if you tell the average person to think about king arthur the first thing they'll think of will be the round table.
I think the bond forged in battle between soldiers is the closest modern equivalent to the bond between arthurian knights, which is probably why lancelot and wayne feel closer to the characters they’re based on.
they’re certainly nobler than arthur’s ‘court’. the hints to the ugliness hiding just below the civilised surface (like galahad being called ‘it’ at work, which arthur might or might not be aware of) were subtle and slightly unnerving, as was the facade cracking at the end (the ‘black bastard’ shout during the football match) before the truth about the sexual assaults came to light.
another missing element for me (if we want to call it that)— was merlin. where was he!! only hinted at twice towards the end. I would’ve liked to see him instead of falstaff. who was there for some reason.
what was the deal with him btw? why is he here. who invited him?? I wasn’t too annoyed by him because thankfully he wasn’t in it much, but he felt unnecessary to me. maybe because of my personal beef with henry iv. (well, beef isn’t quite the word—the fact is, I love my richards and my henry vi plays, but henry iv and v? they’re nothing to me. in the sense that I barely remember them. and falstaff—I don’t hate him, but I don’t feel any particular fondness towards him. I didn’t care about his silly goofy antics in henry iv and I cared even less here. but I know he's a beloved literary character so maybe it's just me. I just think if you're going to insert an odd, seemingly immortal old man into your arthurian novel, you might as well make him merlin).
I was glad the book didn’t devolve into a full murder mystery—I mean, yes, the mystery of Carly’s death was certainly an important element, but it didn’t overshadow the rest of the plot if it makes sense? it was still mostly driven by interpersonal conflicts, which I liked.
the reveal of the killer was all right. it didn’t exactly come out of the blue (though I briefly suspected lancelot or even arthur at some point). once it became clear it was one of the guys at the company I didn’t care about it that much? I was like, okay. can we get back to morgan and gwen please. but it was quickly resolved so. (the misogynist motive and tirade felt a bit facile, but I did not see the answer to Sir Gromer Somer Joure’s riddle coming. that was a nice touch.)
the description of gwen and morgan’s friendship and subsequent falling out was touching, and I think that’s the moment that actually pulled me into the story. it’s funny because last week some friends and I were talking about how women/girls often seem to have this tragic ‘breakups’ with their best friends which can be more dramatic than a romantic breakup. how it seems to be more of a female phenomenon (?) purely anecdotal of course, and something that never happened to me to this extent, but there you go.
I quite liked the author’s characterisation. I loved most characters, really.
(g)wayne!! struggling with anger management and internalised homophobia and WHAT on earth was that deal with the pub landlord. I mean, I understand what it’s based on, but? at first I thought ‘oh okay it’s a sex thing’. like kay said to arthur, ‘cuckolding is a thing’. but then the punch? I had surmised the lesson vern was trying to teach wayne at that point but still. so weird. personally I think wayne should’ve stayed with vern and lou as their third or something, but whatever. hope he has fun in vietnam.
galahad!! it would have been soooo easy to make gal accidentally insufferable (sanctimonious and holier-than-thou) but there’s something so earnest about them, they ended up being so sweet. going on an unprompted tirade about veganism and then apologising immediately after. thinking about nuking the internet because humans are the scourge of the earth. I love them.
lancelot my beloved. ptsd-riddled, unhealthily infatuated, melancholy and tragic. I don’t care how cheesy it is, you put in front of me a variation of lancelot and guinevere’s doomed love story and I lap it all up. the bit where the comet goes over abury and looks down at them in the car park and thinks ‘oh no you two, not again…’ (or whatever it was, I can’t be bothered to check now)—that bit made me a bit emotional? so cheesy, but like I said. yes please! I’ll have some more.
I wish we had seen a bit more of lancelot and arthur’s friendship instead of being told they were best friends, because they didn’t feel that close actually. yet arthur should be hurt by lancelot’s betrayal as much as gwen’s.
I loved gwen and mo’s relationship too. the two of them looking at arthur as a common enemy. mo, the perceptive child picking up on all the clues pointing to arthur’s emotional neglect towards him and his mom, and to lancelot’s love for guinevere, and picking gwen’s side. mo glueing gwen’s hand in the kitchen and picking up thrush med for her at boots.
arthur was fascinating, I liked him but was never quite sure what to think about him. seemingly good guy, all wrapped up in plausible deniability. It’s like I said… all around decent guy… excluding an incident or two. kay’s memory of arthur throwing his own computer from his window and letting kay take the blame was chilling, in context. but still, the hint of redemption at the end. I liked that he made up with mo and morgan, actually. I’m not sure I would’ve enjoyed a tragic ending. In fact, I want to believe that lancelot got to see gwen again, too. I want them to get a happily ever after, for once.
I liked the humour, more than a few sentences had me laughing out loud—‘like the diet coke man if he was on the spectrum’; arthur thinking gwen wasn’t much of a cook, which was comically petty in the midst of all that was going on; linnet and her legendary tits. I liked that the (mostly female) secondary character who provided some of the comic relief still retained some measure of dignity. I smiled at linnet and carly’s mom and gwen’s ex colleague, but in an affectionate way? they might be a bit silly but they don't come across as stupid, and even had their moments of wisdom.
I enjoyed the writing style, overall. I suppose, if I were to nitpick, the characters’ thoughts (and sometimes dialogue) felt at times slightly odd because it reflected the author’s style rather than… the character’s personality? am I making sense? there were a couple of instances where the writing drew attention to itself and made me go ‘she would not say/think that’. but for the most part it wasn’t an issue.
oooh sorry I’ve written so much and I’ve said nothing of substance. and now I’m getting a headache so I’m going to stop here I think. But yes I did enjoy the book, it was fun!
it has also opened my third eye to the beautiful potential of mordred/galahad. sorry to be basic! but they were cute.
[random thought I don't know where to insert: was gwen's brother supposed to be agravaine? or inspired by him? because he said something like ‘and they call me aggro’ to gwen in one of the earliest flashback chapters, which I thought was a clue, but then nothing came of it? I think?]
anyway if there’s anything specific you want to know/discuss just ask, I’m happy to yap away :3 as you can see.
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SOMEONE SAID IT OK NOW I GOTTA DIVULGE HAHAHAHA-
fae hobie was literally just that, everything is normal except hobie is a fucking woodland sprite and about the size of a piece of beef jerky. my main inspiration was these things:
from spiderwick chronicles cuz I MEAN LOOK AT THEIR HAIR??? head?? things????
I NEVER EVEN SAW THE MOVIE/SHOW/WHATEVER IT WAS.
my unbelievably unoriginal ass was like HMMMMM HOBIE'S HAIR. IN PETALS. . . HMMMM. and then it slowly devolved into tiny hobie au.
the kids carry him around in pockets or on their shoulder and he speaks the fae equivalent of british which makes him three times harder to understand.
its so funny trust.
and jazz au was a crackhead idea of suppressed music talent miles finding his band in the other spiderkids and this oddly ambitious plot about gwen and hobie drifting away to pursue rock but always coming back to jam with the boys because punk rock and even metal pulls a lot of inspiration from jazz and the jazz movement.
miles would be a singer or a trumpet player and i cant decide which so HA.
wriggles around in my padded room.
#atsv#atsv au#atsv aus#yes aus plural#hobie brown#miles morales#only those two get tagged cuz they get mentioned by name#tiny hobie#imagine tho he'd be so annoying#and he's fae so he can take tomfoolery to the next level#do not give him shit he will light it on fire#he hides in pav's hair because its so fluffy#one of my friends also said he'd fit in a bong#and i agree completely#smokin da hobie tonite
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I love Nesta idc idc
I love her difficult personality. She was interesting.
I understand that a lot of people hate her, but I've liked her from Book 1. From the moment all 3 sisters were going into the market and Nesta stepped in to shoo away the Children of the Blessed, and pulled Feyre aside to warn her to stay away from mercenaries, and especially when it was revealed that Nesta was so strong willed that Tamlin's glamor didn't work on her and that she went to those same mercenaries and tried to cross the wall to save Feyre. I knew instantly that I liked her.
So when Cassian was in her house in Book 2 talking about the past issues between Feyre and Nesta I was???? Confused??? Because didn't Feyre and Nesta move past that in Book 1???? Why is he bringing it up??? I thought we were over this??? And that has nothing to do with him? (Literally Rhys and Feyre weren't even dating yet, I think? So it was literally my sister's friend of a friend is talking shit in my house type of situation)
Sidebar: I wish any of my friends would take words out my mouth to talk shit about my siblings. Yeh, me and my siblings have beef sometimes, but that ain't got shit to do with you???? (Sidesidebar: I don't wanna see anyone trying to say "yeh but I bet your siblings didn't abuse you like Nesta did to Feyre". Stop. You don't know me, my siblings, or my life.)
ANYWAY lol
I, for one, am big on the idea of having a life away from your partner.
So Feyre's literal entire life revolving around the ic was a pass for me. And it actually annoyed tf out of me that Rhysand and The Pips (sry, Feysand and The Pips) were fighting so hard to make Nesta fit in. Because why? If you hate her so much, leave her alone. Don't want her spending your money? Send her somewhere else? The way they constantly verbally and mentally beat her down until she had no choice but to fit in had me grinding my teeth.
She's mean. So what? Amren's attitude was a million times worse than Nesta imo, the only difference is that Amren was a five thousand year old eldrich being the fey told bedtime stories to their kids about to get them to behave. No one says shit to Amren about her attitude because what tf are they going to do about it? Amren literally even says that she likes Nesta and her attitude because it was just like her. But the moment Nesta stops doing what Amren wanted her to do, now she all of a sudden has a problem with her attitude, lol.
We see there are a handful of examples within the books of people that have no problem at all with Nesta. It's literally just Rhys and The Pips that have a problem, and if Rhys has a problem then it's everyone's problem.
Literally.
We are literally told that Nesta was visiting Feyre, Elain, and Amren regularly on her own after acowar and that the only time she seemed to kick up a fuss is when she was being made to participate in ic gatherings. Sooooo.... besides Az, that means Rhys, Morgan, and Cassian were the problem. Rhys and Morgan very openly hate her, and after acowar she made it clear that she wasn't ready for whatever Cassian wanted from her, so she was avoiding him. And Nesta says herself that she didn't hate Rhys. She thought he was an asshole (because he is), but all in all she thinks he's a good male. (**she calls Rhys an asshole to Cassian, but after training when she sees Gwen/the priestesses move away from Rhys she notes how it made her sad (??) because he's a good male and would never hurt a female like that COUGH CHOKE)
Wow this post derailed from the main point
My point is: why does Nesta have to be nice/nicer? Why? And why is Nesta being blamed for everything bad that happened to Feyre when they were kids?
I'm not even joking. Every time Rhys did some shit to Nesta I was WAITING for Feyre to give him shit for it. Feyre does call him out for treating Nesta poorly on multiple occasions across FOUR (4) BOOKS (acomaf, acowar, acofas, & acosf) [I will say that it may only be called out in 3 books, but it's 3 at the very least]. And just when I think she's finally going to snap at him in acosf, it ends up being downplayed as a joke between Cassian and Rhys
Cass: oooh you know you're in trouble for what you did/said to Nesta... you send the staff away so they won't hear the wife nag at you?
Rhys: naaaah, I sent them away so they won't hear something else *suggestive eyebrow wiggle*
Bffr. Seriously? Did he really just sidestep the fact that he did something that obviously upset Feyre.... to fuck?
And the one and only time Rhys is called out specifically for how hypocritical it is for him to hate Nesta but be perfectly fine with Elain, he says that "Elain is Elain" bs (yall my blood ran so hot reading that line I had to put the book down for a moment). Like Rhys actually could've given about a thousand legitimate reasons for why he likes Elain but doesn't like Nesta, and he says THAT?
I'm not going to defend any of Nesta's actions cuz yeah she definitely was being a bitch for a good portion of the book, but also... she doesn't really owe them anything. Especially not her time or her kindness.
Listen. I'm of the opinion that no one owes anyone anything, so I don't wanna hear "well after Feyre did all that the least Nesta can do is blah blah blah—"
No.
I heard enough of that growing up. Enough of that, "I provided for you, so you owe me" bs (this isn't directed at Feyre specificly, since Feyre never actually asks Nesta for anything besides using her home for negotiations but that was a separate, unrelated occurrence). Absolutely not. Nesta didn't ask or tell Feyre to go into the woods. So why should Nesta owe Feyre for that?
I will also never forget how Feyre said Nesta and her were at each other's throats and were mean to each other. Feyre said that. So when people started hating on Nesta because Nesta was mean to Feyre, it felt very one-sided. Also because that detail is one of the many retcons in acotar. Like sjm literally forgot that she wrote that Nesta and Feyre were mean to EACH OTHER but also forgave each other and reached an understanding (all in Book 1), only in the very next book to take it all back.
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i have a lot of unorganized miguel headcanons that float around my brain at times but since i usually think of them at night and forget about them the next morning im just going to continuously update this post probably? anyway here are the ones that i do remember
i will either leave this in my drafts and update it when i want to or ill just edit/reblog with new stuff idk
edit after i stopped typing:
ok its time
fuck you
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identity headcanons first, because idk getting those out of the way feel free to get pissed off about these ill just block you 💖
trans man. he/him pronouns. probbably doesnt care if you use gender neutral terms for him because like... why would he, he has a multiverse to stare at
asexual, can't really figure out of i see him as being aromantic as well, i personally just think he's too busy to think about it atm but i dont think hes incapable of it. maybe arospec, like demiro or greyro or smth idk, i just know this mf is asexual.
he is autistic (and probably undiagnosed?) i will die on this hill as if i was a warrior cat defending the sunningrocks i will commit an oakheart fight me on this and i will throw rocks at you and then promptly get crushed by rocks as well (is that warrior cats spoilers um oops sorry)
now to the rest- that i remember- i have not read the comics yet so if some of these are like.. actually canon lmk because that would be really funny
this one might be a hot take but he does not hate miles. he wants to look out for him and definitely either currently regrets or is going to regret what happened in that chase scene. i genuinely doubt he hates any of the spider-gang hes just very, very worried about the multiverse. in his head thats the only way. (i am hoping and pleading that miguel and miles make up somehow, maybe miles doesnt forgive miguel and that totally understandable and would make sense but pLEASE writers i would die if you kept them as being rivals i genuinely would)
he hates Audrey Hepburn, fangoria, harry houdini, AND croquet. he CAN swim, he CAN dance, and he DOES know Karate. he still wont make it though. sorry man.
since hes from the future i dont think he'd be terribly confused by current slang/terms, hed more look at it like we see terms from like... the 80-90s or anything before that as "oh wow people used to say that? huh. interesting."
im going back on a headcanon ive had since i saw the movie im SoRRYYY but he cant curse. from what ive seen from the comics he uses replacements like "shock" and "bithead", thats it. maybe he says fuck on accident or in spanish (he technically kind of does depending on how you see "Ay Coño" being said but thats beside the point).
probably a blue eyes hater idk he just gives me the vibe of saying "jesus christ your eyes are way too blue, get contacts please im begging you stop looking at me" which is probably why him and gwen have so much beef.
i dont give a shit about what the movie says his fangs are not retractable fuck you. (he still has crooked teeth though i will never forget about those <3 )
autism be damned my guy can work a grill 🔥🔥🔥🔥
a lot of people cant really tell if hes pissed or not by his tone sometimes. is this projection? yeah, next question.
he hardly ever sleeps but when he does its like hes dead (at least when its dead quiet, which again, isnt often so he hardly ever gets a good nights sleep). you'd have to use a fucking blowtorch to the face to wake him up.
i also see him as not only having hypersensitive vision but also having elevated senses period. hearing, smell, touch, etc. probably the main reason he sits in the dark with no other noise.
branching off of that he frequently gets migraines of things get to stressful or too loud or if anything is very off about his schedule.
arachnophobe. ha.
cat person.
cat person as in he likes cats not like hes a catboy.. i shouldnt specify that actually that just makes it worse but i will anyway because tumblr hellsite will be tumblr hellsite
he partially likes lego peter because his daughter really liked lego.
ok but like think about it he'd probably be really good at taking legos apart with those claws. like imagine. it'd be nothing for him.
hasnt spoken to gabriel in years. he cant bring himself to reach out and when gabriel does he just doesnt have the energy to try and respond. he has no idea how to, especially now.
this is very specific but he stims a lot with his claws. like extend and retract over and over absentmindedly (mainly because thats what i'd do if i had claws imagine how fun that would be)
he usually bottles up all the emotions that he has, including anger. kind of explains why he lost it in the chase scene in my head because he reached a boiling point. he hates talking to people about his problems.
empanadas are his safe food, also theyre just easy to eat when your mouth is a little funky (i would know i have some fucked up braces theyre great for that 10/10), its mostly just easier on his fangs.
definitely horrible at the whole self are thing. he just forgets, all the time. would forget to breathe if it wasnt involuntary
if you say anything he doesnt particularly like (eg "hey bro are you okay do you wanna talk") he'll just stare at you with his rat eyes like 👁️👁️ until you stopped idk what im saying.
he is a bit touch starved, depending on his mood he'll let people touch him in a friendly (emphasis on friendly. friendly friendly friendly dont take it any other way :/) way.
OH I almost forgot about this one: he hisses. some spiders hiss. so does he. vampire furry energy
he also gets pissed when people call him a vampire so uh... im counting my days oops.
will go out and sit in the rain. (wait would it still rain in the future? is the climate still fucked in his timeline or nah)
like "ah, its water time" and goes out to sit like this:
Man if only there was a rain filter
that is all i have for now maybe if something else comes up ill reblog with new stuff >:)
#across the spiderverse#atsv#miguel o'hara#spiderman 2099#spider verse#headcanons#his specific tag that i have for him might be.........#errrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmm#critter moment#eureka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!#CRITTER MOMENT YES!!#ok you can post this now ash no more stalling
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LOOK! SOMEONE IS DEMONIZING GWEN LIKE SHE WAS EVILL ALL ALONG! AND THIS USER IS AN INSANE PRO-COURTNEY AND PRO-DUNCNEY SCUM WHO REALLY WANTS GWEN TO DIE FOR REAL!
I don't know what to do?
I don't think they were trying to hurt you but because you are hurting this is my opinion and mini spiral because I didn't know how make you feel better in general lol.
Here you go:
Just mute them? Block them? Or scroll away
Please bestie you go to bed early then you wake up early write out Gwen love tomorrow when you got the time and if you ship Gwuncan that write that too, I guess...
If you love Gwen and know in your heart those writers failed our TD girls then don't worry about it and it's okay to have feelings even the negative ones!
BUt I am not the strongest warrior for Gwen and against fellow Pro-Duncney and Pro-Courtney who never nothing wrong?
I am the preacher to GWEN?! (NO)
IF GWEN WAS A RELIGION, I WOULD ACCEPT HER INTO MY HEART!!
Mhmm Gwen.
Pro-healing Gwen, Pro-Healthy Courtney, and Pro-Healed Duncan in this household.
I am sorry, I don't know what to do so bad....
I love you though anon, I hope you well!
What am I supposed to do?!
Preach?
I am scared... I am getting war flashes backs of being bible thumper... I am getting scared bro I don't want preach Gwen love, no hate for Gwuncan because my lil brain makes me feel I am back being an awful Christian cunt that acted I can't do wrong!
I am sorry to hear that, and I am sorry fellow Gwuncan fans... I have failed you? (I hope my cousin the Gwuncan fan can forgive me...one day)
Geez I don't know man... all I can offer is a short of Gwen love fanfic and healthy a bit of Gwuncan ship like in romance but it not going end up as the main ship by end because I miss Gwen and Trent. mhmm making two white men find for a lady that deserves better.
I am not- gonna start beef with anyone because first all I am trying to be veggie gorl with peace, and I am not their mother.....
Two freedoms of speech... I guess.
Three... I kinda trying to relearn how to mind my own business and maybe unexpected but learn to live with other ships just be happening.
Four you can make your own post on loving GWEN!!!
Also, I don't want control the emotions of others or call them out for having feelings in general or different opinions.
Like um... I kinda like not be a bitch if there's no need to?
ALL PRAISE THE HOLY TRIO
GWEN THE HOLY
HOUSE OF COURTNEY
DUNCAN OF FIRE
THAT'S ALL AND THANK YOU DEAR ANON?!
GO TO BED OR GET YUMMY FOOD AND LIKE IDK WRITE LOVE FOR GWEN FANFIC?!
I AM NOT PREACHER!
#total drama#total drama ideas#total drama fanfiction#tdwt gwen#total drama gwen#gwen tdi#gwen total drama#tdi gwen#platonic gwuncan#gwuncan#tdi duncan#duncan tdi#duncan total drama#total drama courtney#courtney tdi#courtney total drama#duncan and courtney#courtney td#tdi courtney
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Hi! How about A9, B9 and C6? Oh, and D10!
Hiiii hon! Alright lets see...
A9. Who was your first ship?
The earliest ship I remember that I got actually invested in is Reaper76 from Overwatch. I mean, traumatized old gay men who like to shoot at each other and have a HistoryTM? It covers all the basics for me. Also this ship is what made me find AO3, so it kinda introduced me to fandom as a whole and is therefore technically responsible for all the madness that came after it.
B9. Who is your OTP?
You know, I was going to say this is a hard question because I have so many pairings I like in several fandoms and I dont really pick favorites because I like different aspects about them and also Im indecisive. And then I remembered Symbrock. And nothing really comes near the level of absolutely messy devotion of (comics!)Symbrock. So yeah.
C6. Is there anything in canon that made you want to quit the show? What was it? Why do you hate it?
Oh boy, here we go... So not a show, but allllll the shit Cates did with absolute garbage & co and what came after essentially made me quit venom comics and comics in general. Do I even need to explain myself? Like I was keeping up with Venom and also Spider-man and some others because it was fun and enjoyable. And then came the egregious retconning, inconsistencies, character butchering (both how they were written but also literally), characters dying and coming back and dying again and coming back again and fucking gods apparently and how every single issue was The Most Shocking And Dramatic Things The Characters Have Ever Been Through and everything is just edgy and grimdark and angsty and so fucking STUPID and it was just. It wasnt fun or enjoyable anymore, only exhausting and frustrating and sad. And not sad like a sad story makes you feel, but sad like watching something you care about irreparably crash and burn in real time without being able to do anything about it and knowing you can never have it back the way it was (which there is enough of IRL). So I powered through until king in black where I just said "reading this bullshit is draining and depressing and doesnt bring me anything, its not worth it anymore so fuck it" and just stopped. And with my main reason for reading comics gone I ditched marvel comics altogether because lets be honest keeping up with all the different stories and timelines and crossovers and whatnot is exhausting cuz theres just so damn much going on all the time. And why torment yourself with shitty canon when you can have wonderful fanfics tailored to your specific tastes all for free? So I quit comics, read fics instead, got into some new fandoms, indulged my hc and have ever since been living blissfully unaware of the burning dumpster fire (derogatory) that is canon. I only see glimpses of it when it crosses my dash, which I use for cherrypicking for my hc and aggressively ignore the rest.
D10. What is one story idea you really want to read but no one has written yet?
I have a whole lot of story ideas I really want to read (my hcs) that no one has written yet (that would be cuz of me not writing them). But for real, I would love more stories with symbiote & spider-people shenanigans. Like there was this one comic of Peter, Miles and Gwen meeting Venom and fighting Doc Ock toghether and they were kinda buddies? More stuff like that, that has spider/symbiote interaction besides them just trying to kill each other. Maybe it exists and I just havent found it. But like, Venom in spiderverse, they have to team up with the spider gang and they kinda get along because he doesnt have any personal beef with them. He will absolutely recite and discuss Shakespear with that medieval spiderman, be enamored with little Mayday, and be nothing but gentlemanly toward spider ma'am. The other spiders find that "yeah he is freaky and has some dubious morals but isnt actually just an evil monster, he just doesnt like you Peter". The Peter in question does not like it one bit. Him and Venom (barely) tolerate each other, as they always do when they team up, but are constantly petty and passive aggressive towards each other in a funny way, bickering like an old married couple. Because of the nature of their history they also know stuff about each other and will casually drop highly personal details about the other that makes the other spiders go "👀 you sure he's your enemy and not just your ex?". Which Peter likes even less. Other story ideas i desperately need is ANYTHING WITH ANTI-VENOM HOLY SHIT WHERE IS MY BABY!?!?!?! I need stories that let him be a silly dumbass and a pathetic wet beast and occasionally getting railed that dont just exist in my head. But the amount of content on him is just dismal. I often feel like the sole inhabitant of the ghost town that is the Anti-Venom fandom. I've come across one (1) quality fic that portrays him properly (thank you @kitausuret for your invaluable service) and good art is hard to come by compared to other characters. And I realize that if I want more art of him and an Anti-Venom x Agent Venom arch-enemies-to-reluctant-allies-to-even-more-reluctant-friends-to-how-the-hell-did-this-happen excruciating slow burn, I will probably have to do it myself, which hghgnghgnhhh will take forever, but oh well.
Well, this sorta turned into an essay that turned into an impromptu vent post. Hope thats okay and you got your answers!
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The Ultimate Spider-Man comics never cease to make me loose my shit in either a positive way or a negative way and there's no in between. It's like. Brian Micheal Bendis is always writing something. Just something. And I either LOVEEE it or I really fucking hate it with a passion and I cannot understand this man just by his writing because it's so fucking confusing. Like oh! Gwen rejecting an older guy hitting on her and negatively showing dudes who get pissed when girls reject them, good message! Then later. Gwen kisses Ganke. Even though she's like 17-18 and he's 14. Now I don't want to get into arguments with this post but that's just like weird because it's about the same age gap Gwen and Eddie had when he flirted with her and it's blatantly a double standard and perfectly represents all the weird mixed feelings I have about Brian Micheal Bendis' writing for Spider-Man. Sometimes it's GOOD. REALLY GOOD. And then sometimes it's blatantly awful! I think there's more good then bad here, although I think most of the bad is romance related in these stories because like. What the hell was Gwen x Peter and Peter x Kitty. Gwen and Peter in the Ultimate universe is weird to me because it's established they view each other as family in one issue and then they do a time skip and suddenly they're dating. Which is just. Weird. Not illegal or anything it's just a weird writing choice? Like it's just a bad idea to break up your main couple off screen and then pedal back on your writing before and suddenly have your main character date the girl that was established as not being a romantic love interest for him? It's just weird.
Peter and Kitty on the other hand isn't bad, it's just bad writing. Brian Micheal Bendis' pet character is Kitty Pryde, and she's cool and all and he can do whatever he wants it's his comics. It's just she's forced into the narrative and her being there and dating Peter actively makes Peter look like an awful person who cheated on his girlfriend, which is NEVER ADDRESSED. To clarify I don't have a problem with "problematic" characters or relationships, it just bugs me when the narrative ignores the negative aspects of something.
This is turning very rambly but what I mean is- Peter cheating on Kitty is fine as long as people actively call Peter out on his bullshit and tell him that was fucked up, but they don't. He doesn't get consequences for this shit. Or with Gwen, they can do that, but it should be acknowledged and they should explain how Gwen and Peter's feelings changed over the 6 months instead of getting them together, and then back pedaling on that choice too and saying that Gwen forced him into it or whatever. And when this stuff is addressed, it's usually a one off line with no actually lasting meaning or consequence. It just makes the characters feel horribly out of character and makes me hate them. Gwen kissing Ganke makes me grossed out because it makes her look like a hypocrite and a creep. She literally was in Ganke's position before and she rejected it rightfully because that's weird. But now she's in Eddie's position in a way and it makes her an actively worse character, so I just choose to ignore it in my brain because! I like Gwen!
Tdlr; Ultimate Spider-Man is good and if you want to get into the comics it's a good way to start just acknowledge that you may have a lot of beef with the writing choices, especially the romance related ones.
#aaronymous ramblings#spider-man#spider man#spiderman#peter parker#ultimate spider-man#brian michael bendis#realizing I spelled his name wrong earlier eh whatever#some of the stuff he does is absolutely great#like with Liz Allan he's written her in a way that shes never written and its wonderful I love when writer's give her depth because she's#one of my favorites out of peter's classmates#and of course Miles Morales is wonderful#miles morales#gwen stacy#kitty pryde#some of his writing especially on the romance side is just bad.#he wants to do things for comic accuracy or personal interest sometimes and like cool thats fine but dude.#at least write it in a way that makes sense and doesnt make the character we're supposed to be rooting for look like an asshole who never#gets real consequences for his actions#kitty is just like yeah this dude was great readers forget he literally cheated on me hahah
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Alright after almost having an irrational breakdown over whether or not I’ll see Spiderverse spoilers, I went to go see it
And since @psychedelic-ink wants to talk about it with someone, here are my notes :)
Spoilers below the cut, proceed with caution
My sibling said they knew of a cameo and I thought it was gonna just be J.K. Simmons as J Jonah Jameson (in two universes)
I was surprised that Gwen took up the intro. But I’m not mad about it, just unexpected. Which is exactly what she said “let’s do this differently”
THE RENAISSANCE VULTURE AHHHH so cool. Loved how the style clashed with the rest of the universe
Miles’ mom’s Spanglish is no joke. She would change mid sentence (mid- word???) my (limited) Spanish class knowledge can’t keep up 😭😭😭😭New respect for the Spanglish kids having to decode their parents all the time
Also was Miles’ roommate playing the Spiderman PS2 game? Like the controller was new but I swear it looked like the PS2 game. I understand the new Spiderman PS4 and PA5 game is popular rn so I’d get if it was that instead. I’m just not as familiar with that
I thought from the trailer that the spot was going to be a minor villain and they weren’t gonna show the main villain. But I like how they made him a genuine threat. He’s still a nerd tho
WHEN GWEN’S FATHER TRIED TO ARREST HER OMG. A cop’s a cop
Pavitr is so 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 I love him
His hair is that luscious bc of shampoo and genetics lol. I get that a lot with my complexion. Never had any publicly visible acne, and yes I love flaunting that fact at least once a year so. This is the one
I thought “wouldn’t it be messed up if they reversed this a killed the captain anyways?” And I’m so glad they didn’t. Please let Pavitr continue to be the golden child. He deserves it
AND HOBIE!!!! He hates the AM and the PM (prime minister) lol. The comedic relief we didn’t know we needed. Also he is super hot. Is he a teenager tho? Hold on. Still don’t know. I’m not about to swoon over a teen but he looks over 18 and I have a soft spot for punk guys 😌😌😌😌
Hobie and Mayday is the best pair and they only had a few seconds together. Sad
ALSO, only critique, I was severely lacking in Mayday content. I would like to see the baby. Give me more Mayday
Does this make Miles Mayday’s godfather? Cause I hope so.
DONALD GLOVER AHHHHHHHHHHH
Donald as the big cameo was the best. I audibly gasped. Our hero. Thank you for sparking Miles Morales
Of course I loved the other Sony Peters.
Also I didn’t realize that was PS4 Peter saying “are you talking to me?” during the video game characters in prison. I thought it was Miles
ALSO WAS THE SPECTACULAR SPIDERMAN TALKING TO (I believe) MILES BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE IT
Oh! How could I forget the Lego Peter Parker ❤️❤️❤️ I cackled that Miguel said Lego Peter did some of the best work. Like hell yeah he did. Legos don’t mess around 😂
ALSO DID YOU KNOW THE LEGO SEQUENCES WERE ANIMATED BY A 14 YEAR OLD???? Crazy
Moose-teriyo
I know Miguel is trying to to save a whole universe and doing it for the greater good but holy cow man. He’s a child. It’s his dad you’re talking about. He’s not gonna be rational, and don’t ever expect him to. I wouldn’t. Like I don’t care, I just want my dad to be alright.
Also what is his beef with Peter B. Parker? I feel like there’s more there
Miguel’s backstory hurt tho. No wonder he’s traumatized. I’d become the antagonist too (not villain - just the person that gets in the way of the protagonist)
Also who’s the daddy of Jessica’s baby? We only got glimpses of her backstory. Like did she remove herself from the baby daddy? Did he die? Is Miguel the dad? I doubt it but I’m just nosey. I need her specific trauma gimmie gimmie. Jessica having a soft spot for Gwen. Women protecting women. Gotta love it
Is this the first movie to incorporate footnotes? I feel like it is. It’s certainly the first one I’ve seen. Also “I haven’t got a Scooby Doo” is a phenomenal phrase. And I’m so disappointed that the Brits use it and not us. Like, come on. We’re Scooby Doo capital of the world. Every American loves Scooby Doo.
Okay, Miles being an anomaly was a great twist. But wouldn’t his world collapse then? Wouldn’t Earth 42 collapse? Wouldn’t Miles glitch more? If Mike’s was never meant to be Spiderman than why is the multiverse not already erasing itself?
I think Miles and his universe is the key to restoring other universes, especially the ones where the holes were contained.
PROWLER MILES AHHHHHHH
I kinda knew he’d get stuck in a dimension tho with the “don’t get lost” line from mom. But I didn’t expect a world without Spiderman! So cool.
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Enter Venomgirl
Ch. 36
Shade’s Pov
I try to rehearse what I'm going to talk about. I have to sound like I have a master degree in genetics. Which is going to be hard for me since I haven’t been in school for like 10 years. So my education is basically just bare minimum high school.
“Not going to wish us luck love.” I turn to see the Hobie and the others look like they're ready to head up. They got what they needed to find and destroy colliders that scattered. They are going to head out first before us. Miles, 42, and Peter are going to Collider 3. Judging from emotions that both him and 42 were giving off it seems like they have beef with this Doc Ock lady since she might be there.
Ben, Pav, and Timothy going to Collider 4.
Jess, Hobie, and Gwen are going to Collider 5.
So it is like a three way team for each Collider so we can’t vucked up on this. But then again…I try to not think negatively, it's just kind of hard when your world hates you 99% of the time. So being hopeful is hard for me.
“ We don’t believe in luck coolio spider, luck has never been on our side.” Kuro responds to me. The kids smirked at me like they knew all about it. Then again I don't think a lot of heroes believe in luck either.
“Well, wishful thinking is never going to stop us.”
“Yeah! We're going to make sure those assholes stop messing up your earth.” Miles exclaimed, pumping his fist. 42 just rolled his eyes with a smirk so did Gwen and Pav. laugh about this, I can tell they try to cheer me up and themselves abit. They're nervous about the mission, I can sense it but they're trying not to show it. Sometimes I forget there are just kids, part of me is sad that they have to do this but…I believe in them.
I couldn’t help but hug them all, I know I only knew them for only a few weeks. I don’t want anything to happen to them. I started to see them as friends. Something I haven’t had in years. The fact that they want to help me still surprised me.
“You guys promise you come back in one piece ok?”
They all nodded and Hobie brought me in with an arm around my shoulder. “awww , it looks like we are growing on you aren’t we.”
“ Baka! We just don’t want to see you all dead! Coolio spider, ghost spider, spicy spider, blood pits, and samochi…” Kuro said as she pointed at each one of them with a growl. She points to Peter and Jess “ you two spiders have kids? You better come back to them in one piece, or I will never forgive you!” a little rude but we can tell she cares, I can care. I push Kuro back into my body with sigh
“J-Just come back ok? Hey! after all this I treat you all to some bread.”
“Cool, we have a victory feast after all this.” Pav calm, I saw Jess, Ben and Peter walk up to us.
“We're going to head out to give you a head start, you and Miguel should be able to do this interview and be able to hack the main one once it destroys you earth should be fine now.” Jess stated I nodded. We can finally end this. We got to end this.
“You guys also be safe and thank you. All of you.”
Jess, Ben, and Peter nodded with smiles as I saw them all head out. Miguel then walks up seeing if i’m ready since we have another hour so we can head over to Alchemax HQ. I never really been nervous on these life or death missions. I have done so many times that I'm not fazed by it, but the fact that there are people that are actually helping me, fighting for me. It's a different feeling. I-I don’t know what I do if anything happens to them. I know they must do it a bunch of times.
I just can't help but worry.
“You shouldn’t worry about them.”
My thought was interrupted when Miguel spoke, he must nosticed my worryness. I’m not the only one. He was giving off worry also, for a guy who is mostly stoic he really gives off a lot of emotion.
“I have faith in them. They look young but Miles and them can handle themselves. They prove it to me over and over again. Even though they can be brats sometimes.” he said with a smirk.
“ Didn’t think the big spider was joking.” Kuro pops out onto my head luckily there are less people on the street so we wouldn’t be noticed but still we need to watch it. Not everyday there is a talk shit grinning bunny on my head.
“Trying to make light of things, not good at it.”
I Smile “ well at least you tried to make it light since we're going back to the den of lions. Again. Just you and me this time.”
“And me.” me and Miguel’s voice widened from Blackheart's voice. We didn’t see him and I can’t ‘hear’ him. Miguel was going to say something till I saw him shiver then I began to feel a chill under me. I look down to see the shadow look darker till a pair of red eyes stare from it.
“What you coming with us”
“ Yes, because you two are going to distract them, while I hack the collider and destroy it. Since you guys are too dumb to hack into.”
Man talks about a guy who thinks he all that. I can hear Miguel growled by the comment. I don’t blame him.
“Well, since you are so great, why did you destroy the collider?”
We heard him huffed “ did know they had the foresight to create four more of them and getting outside help from yours and that brat of your”
“Don’t call Miles a brat.”
Why not? You thought of him like that before.”
“Ok both of you can stop that! We have a mission, remember?” I want to stop this argument. Whatever Blackheart has against Miguel he needs to drop it for now. Feeling his disdain for Miguel doesn’t help me focus on the mission. I heard him sigh.
“ Fine, you two just don’t vuck things up. The six are there, getting ready for Tempest’s cognition. So Arachidqueen should be doing her annoying tour and interview.”
“Ok I get Lyla to make something so we can commute.” Miguel said but before I could say anything I had a massive headache. Grab my head. I wasn't the only one, as I looked at Miguel who was grabbing his head as well.
‘What the void was that?!’
‘What the shock?’
My eyes widened when I heard Miguel’s voice in my head.
“ Now we can talk without causing too much suspension. Not like your Lyla is any better with hidden calls.”
‘Shut up about my Lyla, yours is a flying eyeball demon thing.’ Miguel barks back in our head, why is he so loud?! I swear if I could see blackheart he would be rolling his eyes.
“ Anyway, I should be able to communicate but the farther were away we are. So stay alert.”
We made it to Alchemax HQ, still having the sense of evil corporation as usual. I will never get used to coming here. I will have to put Kuro to sleep, I don't want there to be any alarm. Also don't want them to notice that I'm woozy like last time. So I tell Kuro to go to sleep, with fewer people in my head during the mission.
The dizziness always hits hard when you turn off half your brain. Miguel held near him so I wouldn't fall over.
‘Does that always happen to you when you put Kuro to sleep?’ he asked through my head. I nodded as I grabbed my head to get a sense of stability back.
‘I can’t use my power if you haven't guessed yet. So you going do the protecting. Sorry I'm turning damsel for you. I hate being weak.’ and I forgot we were sharing our minds right now.
‘Your not weak Shade and I got you. We just have to destroy the colliders.”
I nodded as we once again entered the lion den. It looked different from the last time I was here, as they were getting ready for Tempest’s inauguration as a true queen. As much as I think she native princess, she doesn't deceive to be used as a tool like her mother.
As we walked in we saw the same lady from last time we were here. She was waving at us to come to her.
“Hello! Mr. and Ms. Applebottom. We've been waiting for you. We are so glad that you are invited to join us in Alchemax.” Sam said as she shook ours hands. Miguel smiles at her warmly put on his acting skills.
‘I hate these names.’
‘Blackheart, did you make that name?’
‘ No, Lyla did. I didn’t care what you would been called’
Miguel spoke “The pleasure is all ours. We were curious why you all were so eager for us to join us.”
“Well looking at your paperwork when you all were doing the tour, we were just so impressed.” Sam led us to the elevator, me and Miguel entered but Sam didn’t.
“Your interviewer will join you shortly. Please wait for her on the 20th floor.”
Then the doors close, leaving us to head up alone. I took a deep breath, it was like I was suffocating every time I’m here. I felt someone hold my hand and I looked down. It was Miguel’s hand held mine.
‘Your ok, we can do this. The others are fighting for your earth. We just have to play, are parts ok?’
I couldn’t help but blush from him holding my hand. He feels so warm and I want to…
‘ Shade, focus. Once this is over you don’t have to deal with those urges.’
My eyes widen hearing Blackheart’s voice
‘Wait, you know about that-’
I was going asked Blackheart how does he know that till the elevator stop but it wasn’t the 20th floor. It was 10th. Me and Miguel were both confused till we felt the chill that Blackheart had on us disappear as we saw the black shadow move away from us.
‘ This is my stop. You won’t hear from me, but you two should still be able to ‘talk’ to each other in your heads. Just keep them distracted.’ We saw Black leave us alone and saw the black shadow go away. I turn to see Miguel grab his head in pain. Something tells me, blackheart said something to him.
“You ok?”
“Yeah, he is not the most friendly person.”
I bet, I was going to ask what he said to him since I figured he told Miguel something that he didn't want me to hear for some reason. I’m going to have a word with him after this all over. The door soon opened to the 20th floor. I thought someone would be waiting for us but there was no one here making me more nervous.
‘Hey, do you have things those kids have? I think they call it a spider sense?’ I asked if it would really be helpful for something like this. Miguel shook his head.
‘ It's the one thing I wish I had.’
We walked down the hallway praying to the Great Ones that this isn’t a trap. We walk up to what looks like a memorial for all their fallen scientists. I didn’t take care of those who die in their company. Not that changes my opinion of them, something about this feels like propaganda and sure enough it was. Seeing that blame me for the attack all those years ago. I look at the picture of the scientist and my eyes fall on Patrick's picture. I couldn’t help but touch it.
“That's your friend?”
I forgot for a moment that Miguel was with me. I looked at him and he gave me a remorseful look. He saw how Patrick died, so this just hurt alot.
“Yeah, it sickened me to honor him like this. Like he was some kind of martyr and-” I stopped myself from talking because at the same time I was looking at the other pictures and one of them caught my eye.
It was a picture of Miguel O’Hara .
Miguel also saw the picture and his eyes widened.
‘You have a variant here?!’
‘I’m just as surprised as you. There was nothing on this earth that indicated that there was a me on this Earth.’
Miguel still stares at the picture. He looks just like Miguel, only wearing sunglasses too. Miguel gave off emotion of shock and confusion, I mean seeing yourself dead for the second time in your life does make you traumatized so I don’t blame him for being taken back by this.
‘I didn’t look too deep on your earth. I should figure there is one here since there is a Tempest,xina, and Dana. Both our Earths have more in common than I thought.’
“Sorry we kept you all waiting”
Both Miguel and my eyes widen from the voice. I knew that voice, the one that would give me chills everytime I heard it . We turn to see Penny and Tempest standing behind us.
Great, this became ten time harder
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Miguel’s pov
Shock great. Why is she here?! I would think we would have to deal with Arachnidqueen again, not the leader of the six. Last time we talked she was being reasonable. But the most reasonable people are the most dangerous, before I was able to say anything I felt something around my throat. Like the same feeling the last time I was here.
‘Shade…’
‘Her hands are around our throats. Try to act like you don’t feel it. Otherwise she my expect something’
‘Noted’ I put on my fakest smile, something I learned from work at Alchemax. Having to work with co-workers trying to kill you does that to you. I put out my hand to shake hers.
“Oh it is an honor to meet you Miss. Penny.” Penny just looked at my hand. She looked like she didn’t want to shake my hand. She just bowed slightly while Tempest shook my hand.
“Sorry, shaking hands is not my thing. Touch people isn’t…the greatest feeling for me.” Penny then beckons to follow her and Tempest. “But anyway, I'm glad you two are here. You took an invitation that was very wise of you. You would have missed a great opportunity.”
Why get the feeling that sounded like a threat?
“I hope you don’t mind if the empress Tempest joins us? There have been…some trouble at the castle.”
Both me and Shade couldn’t help but cringe from what she said. I mean we barged into her room, having a yelling match and almost hurt her. So that makes sense. I saw Tempest looking at me, I hope she doesn't figure out that I'm Spider-man. I didn’t think that through when I took off my mask, it also doesn’t help that the picture of earth 2424 Miguel is right behind me, glad i’m blocking their view of it. That is going to be hard to explain.
“You look familiar. Have I seen you before?” she asked. Before I could say anything. Shade grabbed my arm, hugging me like a doting wife.
“Oh you must have. He sure has a handsome face.isn’t that right hun?” I played along and hugged her back trying to look like I love my wife the same.
Tempest smiled thinking none of it. Penny also smiles trying to act normal but the feeling is so off. Now I understand why Shade is getting a bad vibe from her.
We enter a broad room, it looks dark and evil. Something an evil corporation would have. Dark rooms, barely any light, have multi chairs but probably only two people are in here. Something that use to deal with working under Tylor and how the higher ups were trying to be the most evilest thing ever. Look back at it, I feel so dumb not catching on.
Penny and Tempest sat on the other side of the table while me and Shade down. I saw a few things floating around us. Trays of food and drinks float down.
“Would you like anything to eat or to drink? We're waiting for our third person but he's running abit late.”
‘A third person?’
‘Maybe it's Arachnidqueen?’ I heard Shade say in my head. She then turn back her attention to Penny “I would just have a cup of water if you don’t mind.” Penny then ‘poured’ the glass of water and gave one to each one of us. She then pulled out a holo file, something that was similar to my earth. I guess this Alchemax holds all the good tech.
“Well… Mr. Applebottom. According to your file you are a Geneticist. very high class one. We have lost a lot of what Geneticists do to attacks from our enemies and we need some to help with issues that have been affecting us.”
“Effecting you how?” I asked, I know the real reason: they want me to perfect the compound they've been using. Like that going to happen, I saw what that stuff can do. You are going to be lucky to get any powers and if you do…what are the chances you don’t end up like Penny.
“We want to help advance the sector and its people.” she turn to Tempest
“Our Empress will be the true Empress during tomorrow's ceremony and I want her people to be safe and comfortable for their future. One way is by getting rid of some genetic flaws.”
“Genetic flaws?” I don’t like the sound of that.
‘She wants everyone to have compound R in them’ I look at Shade and she is right , it doesn't take genius to figure that out. But why? Would it be more efficient just only having a few with these kinds of powers? Or is this…something else.
“There are people in this world that cause problems for the reason of us. I’m not saying that this gene is acceptable but for the sake of the future of this Sector and our world we want to make sure it has everlasting peace.” she said with a sip.
‘She is not telling the whole truth.’
I nodded in both Penny’s words and Shade’s.
“But, there are other issues I would like to discuss. She then pulls up a picture of Shade or at least when Shade is in her hero outfit Venomgirl. Some of the videos show her in that symbiote form destroying and killing some of the police. The one that was eye was the same one I saw in Shade’s memories where she killed Patrick when he was the lizard.
I check on Shade who is trying her best to put on a fake face. I look down to see her hands turn into claws betting she wants to reach over across the table and attack Penny for show us this. Lucky, there under the table so Penny and Tempest can’t see it. I put my hands over hers to trying to calm her down.
‘Yeah, I know it messes up, but don’t blow our cover, the mission, remember?’
‘I KNOW! But…’
“Sorry I’m showing you this but I need to explain the dire circumstances we were in with her. Venomgirl. You all know she has been number one target for years. Mainly, she has the underground terrorist group U.N.I.T and demonic entities helping her. We also would like your help stopping them." We turn our attention back to Penny to listen to what she was saying till a door opens up, we look toward the door. Tempest brightens up while Penny looks at the man with a grim look.
“I see that you two started without me. I do apologize for my lateness. I was dealing with other matters that I didn't think would take so long.”
I'm glad I'm wearing my sunglasses because I couldn't help but glare at the man. He looked just like Tylor but his hair was brown and has green eyes. I know this isn’t him but my gut tells me he is just like Tylor. Haven’t meant a Tylor variant that’s a saint.
“I’m glad you two were able to make it. I’m the president of Alchemax, Andrew Stone.” he then walked over to shake my hand with a twisted grin. The same grin that I want to deck Tylor in the face when he drugged me with Raptured. I bite and shake his hands, I must gripped his hand a little too hard and he flinched abit by my grip. I let go before I break his hand as much as I want to. He causes so much pain for Shade and this Earth.
“You are stronger than you look.”
“I get that alot.”
Andrew then sat down next to Tempest.
‘Why does she have her hand on his neck?’ I gave Shade a quick glance at what she meant. Never getting used to talking in the head.
‘It is her power, Penny has these hands that you can’t see, but right now we each have one on our throats. She has a habit of doing that to people, I did note that there were no hands on Tempest. In fact the hands were avoiding her all together.’
“Well, you two. Let's get down to business.” he then turned to Tempest “You going to stay Tempest? You should get some rest for the big event tomorrow.”
Tempest was about to say something till Penny beat her to the punch “I was the one who invited her here. There have been issues in the castle so I want to keep an eye on her. As a ‘hero’ I think it was the best course of action to protect her. Or do you have any injections, father?”
From the bitterness in her tone, something tells me they don’t get along. It is just so awkward that me and Shade are between them. Family drama is not my strong suit. He glared at Penny from her comment. Reminds me of when I got the upper hand on Tylor when I took over half the company.
“Fine, you can stay Tempest.” Tempest nodded as all three of them turned their attention back to us. “We hope you take are offer, for the sake of all are sectors”
“We understand, but why so keen to rewrite genes? I know there is a civil war going on in other sectors. And who know what chemical warfare that they been using? I don’t really see how this benefit you all?” Shade said trying to keep asking question to buy the others some more time.
‘How much longer do you think the others need?’
‘Lyla didn’t give me a signal yet. Nor had Blackheart done anything. We probably would have felt the whole building shake or something.’
“Miss, Applebottom. We just want to reassure you that things go in your favor. We are chosen in the eye of the Great ones. To not move forward is be true crime for you and your friends.”
‘Friends?’ me and Shade thought at the same time. Andrew smirked as he then brought four holo screens in front of us. My eyes widened when I saw others being attacked.
Miles, 42, and Peter were fighting 1610 Doc Ock and the dr. Rose guy. Ben, Pav, and Timothy were fighting Kane. I believe his name was.
Jess, Hobie, and Gwen were fighting Archnidqueen and that battleready guy. The last video was Blackheart fighting another guy. Someone we haven’t seen before, Blackheart looks very injured, something that is not a good demon.
‘Why is he showing us this?!’ I asked to mainly myself
‘Just-just play dumb!’ Shade then spoke up
“W-What is this? Who are these people? Are they also from U.N.I.T?” Shade asked, trying act dumb but something tells me that it was not going to work.
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🔥 gwen stacey
🔥 x-men
gwen stacey- admittedly haven't read any of her comics but i do plan on changing that. like her character a lot in the spiderverse movies albeit her fans can be really annoying. it was just announced in her most recent comic run that she's supposed to be permanently staying in earth 616 (miles' current world). the homies on spiderverse twit aren't too keen on that. mainly because they see that this is going to lead the writers to pairing up miles and gwen in this run. problem is is that miles' is already in a relationship with tiana toomes. there's a very vocal subsection of the spiderverse fandom that has a visceral hatred for seeing miles; be it in the comics, video game, or animated movies, paired off with a black girl. some of it is due to unfamiliarity with these other female characters. but if we gon keep it a buck its mostly misogynoir. im kinda going off on a tangent, this is less about gwen and more about fandom perception of her. its kinda hard to go in depth about characters you like as opposed to characters you dislike. but to sum it up i think she's great i think shes cool, her being rock star is super slay and she's got a bomb ass costume. no notes.
xmen- haven't read any comics tbh my main knowledge of x men comes from fandom osmosis and the live action movies + x men evolution (best x men animated series do NOT @ me). um a take i'd say is, they should like give the logan jean scott thing a rest. in general i've never been keen on the wolverine/cyclops beefing for leadership thing. i think the way cyclops' character be handled in general is kinda wack cause i thought he was so cool in evolution but every other media rep of him past and present goes out of their way to make him an unlikable asshole or boring. idk give this nigga something to else to do.
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